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Post by aweb29 on Nov 25, 2014 13:09:18 GMT -5
Hi all, this is my first post on here but I've been following the forums for a little while. I've asked around at the LFS and on a couple forums but haven't been given a real answer yet. I have a 90 gallon community tank with 5 angels a dozen or so mixed tetras, rams, a geophagus, a couple of Otos and pleco. Water is 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites and 10 nitrates, temp is 79. Filtration is a pair of eheim 2227s and the tanks been running fine for 5 months prior to problems. About a month and a half ago, fish started dying for no reasons I could see. the first two I lost were eating very well, active and no loss of colour (if anything the fish were over coloured, or darker than what they were) I treated with pimafix, melafix and aquarium salt for 7 days as that's what the the LFS recommended. And all was fine for a week or so until my oldest blue angel started looking flushed and the skin between his upper lip and nostrils turned pink so I quarantined him and he got worse, at one point he was bleeding from that spot and then the bleeding stopped and there was fuzz that looked like it was coming out of his nostril, I treated with the same meds again and he cleared up, so after a week of looking ok I added him back in. Then just the other night I noticed he wasn't very active, still eating fine, but flushed and had fuzz in the nostril and pink skin where the pecs joined the body, and he had some white stringy poop, so back in the quarantine he went with pimafix, melafix and aquarium salt. He died last night, but I was still wondering what that might have been as I would like to treat the main tank to try stopping anymore deaths. Here's a picture of him before I removed him the second time.  Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm getting no where and just don't want to be quarantining every other day. |
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Post by aweb29 on Nov 25, 2014 13:31:38 GMT -5
Also I did a 50% water change Thursday night and 20-30% changes every other day with water conditioners as I noticed another Angel had some slight fin rot.
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Post by freshwater on Nov 25, 2014 16:07:03 GMT -5
Did you add any new Angels lately. Seems to be alot of Angels out on the market with some type of parasite. The fin rot on the others could be from the meds. The best thing you can do is water changes every other day about 50% . Another thing that seems to help is garlic in the food to boost there immunity. Kens Garlic Extreme works well you can add to the food or directly in the tank water. Did you remove the carbon from the filters when using the meds. The carbon will absorb the meds.and make them less efective
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Post by freshwater on Nov 25, 2014 16:08:06 GMT -5
Using Prime as a conditioner? Best one going. Also I use API salt with all my Angels all the time.
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Post by freshwater on Nov 25, 2014 16:13:49 GMT -5
lots of Angelfish experts on T.A.F. stands for The Angelfish Forum if you Google it. I am a member on there as well same name as here
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Post by Darren and/or Sarah on Nov 25, 2014 16:24:50 GMT -5
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Post by aweb29 on Nov 25, 2014 17:57:09 GMT -5
Thanks Freshwater and Cors for the reply. Fresh, I will definitely check out that forum, I'm already a member on a few but im getting tired of all the "experts" that answer my questions (No expert my self, but believe I have a pretty good handle on the basics), and the last time I added fish was when I transferred my fish from my 55 gallon to my 90gallon but I transferred everything from the respective tanks like water substrate heaters decorations etc and let it run for a week empty (the 55 was community, the 90 was an african tank) Cors, that link you shared was very helpful, I figured the fungus was cottonmouth and it did seem to help with the pimafix but I would like to dose the tank with something a little stronger than that.
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Post by aweb29 on Nov 25, 2014 17:58:46 GMT -5
And no I'm using the big als multipurpose water conditioner and API salt. This wouldn't have anything to do with GH being high would it?
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Post by freshwater on Nov 25, 2014 19:53:43 GMT -5
Be warned they will have you looking at it's poop under a microscope lol. I'm not sure if API salt would change GH
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Post by aweb29 on Nov 25, 2014 23:00:51 GMT -5
Yeah might not be a good thing lol. And I really don't understand the test kit fully, I bought it on a whim never really used one till now, so other than ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and ph I don't really understand others
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Post by freshwater on Nov 26, 2014 11:16:11 GMT -5
Is it a dip stick test? I find them very inaccurate. The only good test kit I found to use is the liquid test kits. It's the API liquid master test kit, think they are about $30 but they are good for like a hundred tests. When buying be sure to check the expiry date very important not to use expired test kits. Those are the only 4 levels I test as well haven't used GH
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Post by freshwater on Nov 27, 2014 8:56:16 GMT -5
How are the rest of the fish in that tank doing now?
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Post by aweb29 on Nov 30, 2014 18:22:32 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply, it's an API liquid kit and it's good till 2016, and I did lose my Male red hump but everyone seems to be doing fine. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with methylene blue? I was wondering if that would help to kind of disinfect the tank?
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Post by freshwater on Dec 3, 2014 9:06:36 GMT -5
I used the Methylene Blue many years ago when breeding angel fish, I did seem to help the eggs from developing fungus. It stained all the silicone in that tank blue. Other than that have not had much experience with it
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