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Post by mitch25 on Aug 30, 2017 11:32:50 GMT -5
Hi all, I wanted to start a thread about our awesome native species. I'm currently pretty limited on time but will happily post pictures and share my experiences with them in the wild and the few common species I keep at home. I should also mention I do this for work and have all the proper permits and experience to be doing this. If you want to get started with native species let me know and maybe I'll write a thread or give a presentation on how to do it legally and ethically. Here is a few from today out of the Speed River... Rock Bass, Greenside Darter, Creek Chub and River Chub. Cheers!! Mitch
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Post by defiantk on Aug 30, 2017 11:40:35 GMT -5
Great tnread idea, and thanks for the pictures! I really love the smaller native fishes of this area. Just wondering do you ever come across stickleback? One of favorites but havent seen one or a darter in Ontario since I was a little kid.
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Post by Andre on Aug 30, 2017 12:10:16 GMT -5
as i don't fish much it would be nice to see what our native species are.. great thread to start
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Post by lesfromlakeshore on Aug 30, 2017 14:30:03 GMT -5
as i don't fish much it would be nice to see what our native species are.. great thread to start I'm with Andre on this . Great thread topic.
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Post by mitch25 on Aug 30, 2017 15:53:04 GMT -5
Great tnread idea, and thanks for the pictures! I really love the smaller native fishes of this area. Just wondering do you ever come across stickleback? One of favorites but havent seen one or a darter in Ontario since I was a little kid. There is a few different species of sticklebacks in Ontario. I see Brook Sticklebacks everywhere and in huge numbers. They are very picky eaters to keep in aquariums basically only live foods with occasional blood worms.
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Post by mitch25 on Sept 7, 2017 16:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by lesfromlakeshore on Sept 7, 2017 17:24:05 GMT -5
Where do they come up with these names . " Northern Hogsucker " ? lol
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Post by mitch25 on Sept 7, 2017 21:47:30 GMT -5
Haha good point
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Post by mitch25 on Sept 8, 2017 8:17:24 GMT -5
I'd also like to point out that the are called "Bluegills" not "Bluegulls" as a I previously wrote... you can tell I'm rushing lol
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Post by mitch25 on Oct 17, 2017 14:27:29 GMT -5
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Post by stevee on Oct 17, 2017 15:03:52 GMT -5
That's a beautiful little brookie!
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Post by mitch25 on Oct 24, 2017 8:54:52 GMT -5
Previ to Franks talk I wanted to share some of the legalities of keeping native species. As per www.ontario.ca/page/fishing-live-bait. Anglers with a valid fishing licence may capture their own bait for personal use as follows: BAIT LIMIT NOTES Baitfish 120 Includes those caught and or purchased. See list of permitted baitfish species. Only resident anglers may capture baitfish, using the methods outlined below. See www.ontario.ca/faq/what-kinds-baitfish-can-i-use-live-bait bait fish species list One baitfish trap no more than 51 cm (20 in.) long and 31 cm (12.2 in.) wide can be used day or night. Bait-fish traps must be clearly marked with the name of the user. One dip-net no more than 183 cm (6 ft.) on each side if square, or 183 cm (6 ft.) across if circular, during daylight hours only (after sunrise and before sunset). Dip-nets and baitfish traps may not be used in Algonquin Park. Authorities who regulate this are: Conservation Officers Conservation Officers have powers of inspection, arrest, search and seizure under the various statutes they enforce, including the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act and the Fisheries Act. When carrying out their duties Conservation Officers may do the following: Stop and inspect a vehicle, boat or aircraft Ask questions relevant to the inspection Enter onto private property in the discharge of their duties Inspect buildings or other places Search with a warrant Search without a warrant in circumstances requiring immediate action Require the assistance of persons to complete an inspection of coolers and containers Seize items related to an offence Arrest anyone the Conservation Officer believes has committed, is committing, or is about to commit an offence. Police Officers appointed under the Police Services Act, RCMP Officers, National Wildlife Officers, National Park Wardens and Conservation Officers of all border states and provinces are designated Conservation Officers in Ontario. The Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act is the main provincial law regulating fishing. Fishing licences are issued under this act. The penalties for fisheries-related offences can be up to $1,000,000 or three years imprisonment, or both, depending on the Act and the severity of the offence.
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Post by mitch25 on Oct 24, 2017 8:58:02 GMT -5
PLEASE BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU ARE GOING TO CAPTURE NATIVE BAITFISH. This means educating yourselves on how to properly identify native species. I recommended the ROM Ontario Fish ID Book and their subsequent courses.
If at any point you don't know what the species is.. immediately return it to the watercourse. I'm happy to help identify any fish.
If any of you need help getting a scientific collection permit I can help you through the process. It usually takes a month for it to go through.
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Post by lisachromis on Nov 17, 2017 8:46:17 GMT -5
Also, if you do keep them, when you are done keeping them; you CANNOT return them to any wild water body. They must be humanely destroyed. Also, not every MNR officer decides if it's legal or not. You get varying opinions on whether or not you can keep them legally (I have asked many, many people at the MNR and have gotten many differing replies). Your best bet is probably the scientific collection permit as Mitch25 pointed out. There are many really cool species and it's really too bad we cannot keep them in our tanks without a big deal of hassle. I also believe that within the baitfish category there are species you are not allowed to keep at all due to them being highly endangered. I am sure Mitch25 will be able to confirm that.
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Post by mitch25 on Nov 19, 2017 17:13:07 GMT -5
Also, if you do keep them, when you are done keeping them; you CANNOT return them to any wild water body. They must be humanely destroyed. Also, not every MNR officer decides if it's legal or not. You get varying opinions on whether or not you can keep them legally (I have asked many, many people at the MNR and have gotten many differing replies). Your best bet is probably the scientific collection permit as Mitch25 pointed out. There are many really cool species and it's really too bad we cannot keep them in our tanks without a big deal of hassle. I also believe that within the baitfish category there are species you are not allowed to keep at all due to them being highly endangered. I am sure Mitch25 will be able to confirm that. Hey Lisa, Completely agree, fish removed from their native waters should not be returned to the wild. Which fish listed within the baitfish list do you see as being highly endangered?
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